Football

    Grey Cup 2007 (Toronto; Saskatchewan 23, Winnipeg 19)

    Part of our Ongoing Series of Argonotes Grey Cup Memories.

    The 2007 Grey Cup was the first one in Toronto since 1992 (and, thus, the first home grey cup for Argonotes, since the band started in 1995.) We were so excited we even had special collector’s edition lapel pins made up. See above! No, you can’t have one, I think I only have this one left. They were pretty popular.

    We were particularly pleased to be joined by the Saskatchewan Roughrider Pep Band, who, of course, manage somehow to go to every Grey Cup, whereas in Argonotes we could only muster the strength to go to the East Division ones.

    warming up

    As usual we played at all the team parties, including the fabulous Spirit of Edmonton event and their legendary Saturday morning breakfast. I recall that we’d established an official band beachhead at the Novotel downtown where most of us stayed Thursday-Sunday. That sure made it easier to get around without anybody worrying about what anybody had had to drink, if theoretically that were happening.

    In a post appropriately titled What we learned while killing our brain cells, the legendary Boatmen Blog had these kind words to say about our performance at Saturday morning’s Spirit of Edmonton breakfast. (The whole post is worth a read but, well, if I had to pick one paragraph it’d probably be this one.)

    It's never too early for Steve Hayman to bring his A-game. As always at the Spirit of Edmonton Breakfast (which, as you can see, is really a goldmine for material), we were treated to an MC making assorted jokes that range from the corny to the slightly blue. For a guy trying to work a room full of drunks on a Saturday morning, he did a fair job. But he had nothing on the leader of the beloved Argonotes, who came equipped with a dizzying array of one-liners - among them a solid one about Saskatchewan poised to match the number of Grey Cups won by Sarnia and Queen's University, and...well, truthfully, we can't remember the others, on account of the nature of the event. But trust us, he was very funny. And we maintain that the Argonotes' cover of BTO's Ain't Seen Nothing Yet is genuinely more enjoyable than the original.

    strolling around Toronto

    I’m lucky I didn’t get fired for having the band play inside the Apple store at the Eaton Centre.

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    The CFL Pep Band Summit

    Just before the parade we hosted the Saskatchewan band for lunch at our favourite pregame hangout, Joe Badali’s which - what do you know - turned out to be the starting point of the parade. (Photos of summit to come, once I can find them.)

    parade? what parade? who said anything about a parade?

    There was no official Grey Cup Parade, which naturally caused a lot of sneering in western Canada about those high faluting Toronto hipsters who are too cool for the CFL etc etc etc - any Argo fan has been hearing this for decades - but that didn’t stop anybody. Naturally we got together with the Saskatchewan band, the Calgary Grey Cup Committee (who host the annual pancake breakfast and do the horse-in-a-hotel routine) and various fan groups and decided we’d all meet at the corner of Front and Simcoe on Grey Cup Saturday for the ..

    the Not the Grey Cup Parade

    The theory being that parade permits were super expensive, but protest marches were free, so it wasn’t a parade, it was a protest march objecting to the lack of a parade.

    We started at Front and Simcoe, went west on Front (mostly on the sidewalk), turned south on John St over the bridge to Skydome, and wound up at the Convention Centre.

    We may have tipped off the media in advance. Rob Leth of Global did a fantastic report.

    June Trueman

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    Right at the start of that report, and again towards the end, you can see a Winnipeg fan hugging a Saskatchewan fan named June Trueman, who was a delightful member of the Saskatchewan pep band and who, sadly, passed away last month. June was a founding member of the Saskatchewan band and seemingly everybody’s favourite alto sax player. It was always a pleasure to seek her out and say hello. Thank you, June.

    I remember turning around during the parade and seeing this incredible mass of humanity following along, which was pretty amazing for a non-event that we only started “planning” a couple of days before.

    post parade performances

    Here are a few Youtube clips of band performances that day

    Post-parade, Super Tequila at the Convention Centre

    Grey Cup Sunday, Surfin' USA in the fountain outside Skydome

    Geez, that fountain was a good spot. I’m glad nobody found the switch to turn on the pumps, though. We got a nice picture there, and then moments later the fountain was swarmed by Saskatchewan fans.

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    as a proud Canadian band, isn't it a little weird that you keep playing "Surfin' USA"

    how about we call it “Surfin' PEI.” Happy now?

    did we get into the game?

    Yes. The league graciously gave us some passes to get in, although we didn’t have any seats so we had to find obstructed-view unsold seats. The Saskatchewan band got in, of course; they always buy tickets. What? Buy Tickets? Who does that?

    more photos and video

    See more from 2007 on the band web site here.

    was it fun?

    are you kidding? it was the best. What’s more fun than getting together with your friends, even your friends from Saskatchewan, and making some music?

    We never sounded better than we did playing in that fountain. I remember Dave Keith telling me “You know what, by the end of the season, we actually sound tight.”

    Imagine what we would have sounded like if we’d ever had a rehearsal.

    Remembering Grey Cups past

    Part of the reason for this post is that I haven’t blogged anything in a while, but mostly it’s because the 2020 Grey Cup should have been played last Sunday, but wasn’t.

    It’s all got me feeling really nostalgic about the Grey Cups I’ve been lucky to attend with Argonotes, from our first in 1996 to our last in 2017.

    Some were road trips to Cups in Hamilton, Ottawa and Montreal, and some were at home in Toronto, but they were all memorable, multi day festivals of fun and music and drinking and parties and camaraderie and fierce but good-natured rivalries with the Saskatchewan Roughrider Pep Band, and occasionally a football game at the end, and at this time of year, past pictures, videos and posts keep popping up in my Facebook on-this-day-in-years-past memories feed.

    I feel the need to write about each of them.

    I don’t much care whether anybody reads this series, but I want to gather all my best memories of each one in one spot. And this seems like a good spot.

    More to come.

    In no particular order … ok in numerical order … with a few articles still to be written

    • The 1996 Grey Cup in Hamilton, our first road trip
    • The 1997 Grey Cup in Edmonton, which we didn't attend but we got to play in the Victory Parade
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    • The 2001 Grey Cup in Montreal, our first overnight road trip
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    • The 2004 Grey Cup in Ottawa, where we discovered how easy it is to sneak onto the field if you look like you belong
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    • The 2007 Grey Cup in Toronto, including the legendary Not the Grey Cup Parade
    • The 2008 Grey Cup in Montreal, where we stayed at an extremely swanky hotel by mistake
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    • The 2012 Grey Cup in Toronto, where the Argos won it all at home in one of the all time greatest band moments
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    • The 2016 Grey Cup in Toronto, our first (and last) at BMO Field
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    • The 2017 Grey Cup in Ottawa, featuring Technically It's A Band If You Haver At Least Two People
    • The 2021 Grey Cup in Hamilton because hey, you never know.

    Axe not the cheerleaders

    The news broke today that the Montreal Alouettes have disbanded their cheerleading / dance group.

    Citing financial concerns, the Montreal Alouettes have disbanded their cheerleading squad ahead of the 2020 season. “This decision has nothing to do with the hard work (the cheerleaders) put in, or their popularity,” said Charles Rooke, the Alouettes president of communications. “In the current context of financial turnaround, difficult decisions must be made.”

    This is sad. And weird, because they’re keeping the coach around (to work as Director General of the Alouettes Foundation) but axing a very talented group.

    It’s also shortsighted, and wrong. Here’s why.

    it's a package

    People have options these days. Watching a football game from the comfort of your own home in front of your 65" TV in a luxurious armchair has a lot of appeal. The challenge for a league like the CFL is to get people to come to the games.

    what if it was just football

    Here’s a thought experiment. Suppose the only thing going on was the football game itself. No cheerleaders. No mascot. No live music. No T-shirt-tosses or other stunts. Just football. Montreal vs Toronto out there bashing in to each other.

    How many people would come, if it was just football? You’d have 1,000 diehards, people who really know the Xs and Os of the game, people who are anxiously watching defensive alignments and discussing the minutia of pass interference. They would have a great time, but another 20,000 people would be fidgety, bored, confused, and, most likely, would actually be at home watching something else.

    what you really need

    There aren’t nearly enough “pure football” fans to make the business work. In 2020, the game isn’t enough. You need a full game-day experience. And that means having

    • a team with a reasonable chance of winning
    • cheerleaders and a dance team
    • a mascot
    • live music
    • giveaways
    • stunts
    • stuff going on before the game, outside the stadium
    • lots of loud and crazy fans contributing to the spectacle.

    Now, for any item X on that list, you’ll find people who say “I don’t care about X.” Fine. But there aren’t enough of you! This has to appeal to everybody. And cheerleaders and live music and everything else are all part of the package.

    I think the Alouettes, and their new owners, are making a mistake here. (The fact that the new owners are from Ontario isn’t helping, but at least they got off to a good start by proclaiming at an early interview that the Argos suck.)

    money? it's about money?

    I have no idea what the operation in Montreal cost, although the Als did mention on Facebook that their cheerleaders are getting paid per game. That isn’t the only model that could work. Surely there are sponsorship opportunities. Maybe a volunteering model with fees for outside appearances makes sense. (I’m honestly not sure how it works in other cities, but I do know that every CFL cheer squad works hard to raise money to travel to the Grey Cup, which won’t be the same without Montreal’s excellent group.)

    (Also as you might imagine, I have a little CFL game-day experience. Argonotes, the Until Recently Argonauts Band was completely volunteer-based and never got a dime from the team, although the Drum Line was being paid. Lots of different models can work. But as you might have heard, the Argos and Argonotes parted ways in 2017. I wrote down why, somewhere. I forget exactly.)

    ditching the cheerleaders is not right.

    If the new owners are that short of money that they can’t keep the cheerleaders going, maybe they aren’t ready for this.

    Should you move down to a better seat?

    It’s a question that theatre goers and sports fans have asked themselves for years. There’s a better seat over there. Why don’t we move down to it? What’s the harm.

    We saw this happen several times at Saturday’s Argos/Redblacks game. For once we had pretty good seats, in the sixth row near the center of the field behind the Ottawa bench, and admittedly there were quite a few empty seats in the area (which is a problem that’s very hard to solve, apparently, but I am going to keep going to Argo games until this works!)

    And quite a few people snuck down to our section - and a BMO staff person was politely shooing them away. Many were, I think, parents of the large dance group that was performing at halftime - and the staffer asked them to come back when halftime started when a lot of people leave anyway, just not right now while the game’s still on - but some were just fans wanting a better view than the one they’d paid for. I don’t envy the BMO staffer having to be the heavy, but they have a job to do.

    So should you move down?

    No.

    Well, let me modify that. You could try, but if someone calls you out on it, you should move back to your original seat.

    It seems tempting, doesn’t it. What’s the harm if I sit in that unoccupied seat?

    This is strong language, but you are cheating and stealing from the team if you do that.

    Try this the next time you’re on an airplane. Can I sit in that empty business class seat? We’re all flying to the same place. It’s going to take the same amount of fuel whether I sit in the back or not. Forget the fancy meal, I just want to sit here. Can I? I suspect they’d say “no.”

    People often wonder why a team with lots of empty seats doesn’t give away a billion free tickets either. Both things have the same answer: It cheapens the product. If people know they can pay $20 for a cheap seat and move to a $90 expensive seat later, why would they buy an expensive seat? Or why wouldn’t they just wait for a free ticket? You’re sending the message that the experience is only worth $20 or less.

    It’s bad for business, IMHO, and we all want our team to succeed, we need all the seats filled with paying customers.

    Randy Cohen, the former New York Times Ethicist columnist, wrote about this years ago. I like Randy - former Letterman writer - and I bought his books, but I think he’s wrong. (He was also wrong about whether you should recline your seat on the airplane, but I think I straightened him out on that one.)

    It wasn't a Triple Reverse. Not even a "double reverse." Maybe a 1.5

    Here at blog.hayman.net, we are not afraid to discuss the big issues, the topics that matter, the truly important questions that unite us all.

    Be that as it may, today we’ll do some football nitpicking.

    The Argos played Montreal in a very entertaining “home” game in Moncton last weekend and although the outcome wasn’t quite what we wanted, there were some great plays.

    Including this one.

    Which everybody - TSN commentator Rod Black, even the CFL’s official account - wants to call a triple reverse.

    Let’s watch it again, shall we? Here’s the official call. See our additional video analysis below.

    OK. I am no football expert, but I’m pretty good at counting (and I have the math degree to prove it.)

    A reverse is where you hand the ball to one player A who runs one way, and then he hands it to player B, who’s running the opposite, or reverse way.

    In a double reverse, player B hands it to someone else - maybe A, maybe a third player, but let’s call them C - who is running the opposite way, which is now the original way.

    Still with me? A double reverse has TWO reverses in it, right?

    A triple reverse is incredibly rare. C would have to hand the ball off to D, who is running the opposite opposite opposite way. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen one. (If you find a video of one, let me know.)

    So what’s going on in this play from Moncton?

    • The quarterback, Vernon Adams Jr, hands off the ball to #24, Jeremiah Johnson
    • Johnson runs to the sideline, hands the ball to #9, Jake Wieneke.
    • Wieneke heads the other way, back towards the quarterback. This is a reverse.
    • Wieneke pitches the ball back to the quarterback. This is not quite a reverse, the quarterback isn’t moving the opposite way
    • The quarterback throws it down the field and … well the rest isn’t important.

    And yet, TSN’s Rod Black called it a Triple Reverse and the CFL has even bragged about it. Just because there’s three guys handling the ball doesn’t make it a triple reverse.

    Here, then, is our investigative report.

    followup: my thanks to Anthony Reimer who kindly pointed out, post investigation, and beyond the point where I felt like editing the video any more, that the best terminology for this is probably a reverse, followed by a flea flicker.

    On selling football

    Selling Football

    (Some thoughts condensed from a series of tweets you might have already read.)

    Last night Nick and I greatly enjoyed seeing the Argos beat Winnipeg for their first win of the season. It was a very entertaining game where the Argos overcame a 20-0 deficit to win 28-27. Nick and Me pregame

    As usual the process of logging in to Ticketmaster to download and print my tickets was a pain - yeah, I know, I should use the app, I really do know a thing or two about apps, but I also like having paper tickets. (I like paper boarding passes at the airport too.)

    It was a great night in the CFL. Saskatchewan beat Hamilton in the late game - The two home teams win exciting games in the last minute, and their big rivals both lose too. Wish it could be like this every game day.

    Also as usual everybody is wringing their hands about the number of empty seats at the game. Here are some thoughts I jotted down.

    Most articles you read about a football game focus on the football details, the minutia of passing percentages. The Xs and Os, as they say.

    But IMHO, that kind of talk won’t get enough people out of their living rooms to come to the stadium.

    Here are Reasons to come to Toronto Argos games:

    • great facility
    • beautiful weather
    • cheap tickets
    • $5 beer
    • $3 hotdogs
    • great dance team
    • fine band
    • free CNE admission (at the next game, anyway)
    • the best fans

    Oh and

    • WINNING FOOTBALL

    Why don’t we hear more about the game-day experience, the NON-football parts? I wish more media would write about the actual fan experience. What’s it like going to the game? What did you do, what did you see, what was the music like, what was fun or hilarious or strange or amazing in victory or soul-crushing in defeat?

    There are certainly lots of reports of the Xs and Os of the game, of which team ran what play and why, about specific minutiae on the field. That’s great, keep those coming - but non-football-experts would read that and think, “I’ll never understand this, why should I go?”

    PinballI think it would help to see reports from the casual fan perspective too. Hey, Pinball gave a great pep talk before the game. Pluses and minuses of the halftime show. How did that guy get the trivia contest right? It was cool watching them frantically set up the TD cannon.

    Who are all these dancers? What is the deal with the marching band? They’re all 14 year olds from Burlington? Cool. What’s it like sitting with the craziest of crazies in the end zone? Can you actually get a $5 beer?

    Report on the whole game day event, not just the game play.

    The kid who held up the sign that he was beating cancer, so the Argos should beat the Bombers, and got a standing ovation. The air force pilot honoured during a break. Former cheerleaders back for a reunion. I want to read about all this too, not just pass completion stats.

    While we’re at it, if we want more people to come to the games, then instead of just saying “Only in the CFL” when something like this happens - how about explaining what the heck is going on to potential new fans and why it makes the CFL game special?

    If you can’t tell, I love the CFL and the Toronto Argos, I want the league to thrive so some day I can bring my grandkids to the game. It’s a great game day experience, a great outing win or lose, even for non experts. But I’m worried when I see so many empty seats, league-wide.

    Here’s our view of the game winning last minute touchdown. I wish more people could experience how much fun the whole environment is, before, during and after the game, from the fan’s perspective. But you’ll never know that, reading about the game afterwards.

    My point, and somewhere in here I do have one, is that just selling people on the merits of the football itself isn’t going to do it. There aren’t enough football experts to fill any CFL building. Gotta sell the whole game day experience and atmosphere to get folks to leave home. I know everybody at MLSE is trying hard to do this. I’d love to see reporting on the game day atmosphere once in a while too.

    Fond memories of Joe Badali's Restaurant

    Joe Badali’s restaurant - sadly, now closed - was a great friend of Argonotes. It was the closest thing to a sponsor we ever had.

    Badali's web site screenshot. Now closed.

    Nick and I went to the Jays home opener yesterday, which I think was the first time I’d been back to Skydome since the Argo era there ended. This triggered lots of fond Argonotes memories of course. Especially the old tradition of emptying the spit valves on the statue of Ted Rogers.

    The Final Emptying of the Spit Valves

    But I was sad after the game as we walked back to Union Station to see that Joe Badali’s Restaurant (at Front and Simcoe) has closed, and the building it’s in is being gutted, and the adjacent parking lot is now fenced off. Yet another office tower is going up.

    Badali’s holds a special spot in Argonotes history. Before our very first game in 1995, we barged in there to play “Argos Rule the CFL” - to a reaction of befuddlement and confusion. But it got better.

    For over 20 years, it was where we started and ended every performance. “Meet at Front and Simcoe 90 minutes before kickoff” was the usual rule. We’d gather in the adjacent parking lot for a warmup - where we’d make sure nobody had tuned their instruments, ever - and play for the crowd there, and then head over to Skydome, crashing other restaurants along the way. And we’d always wind up at Badali’s after the game too, for drinks and conversation.

    Warming up in the Badali's parking lot

    For a few years, it was the official post game Argo bash spot, and everybody would gather there - players, dance team, fans, band - and former manager Mike O’Connor always made sure there was a reserved table for the band. And free beer and appetizers too. I couldn’t believe it. What had we ever done to deserve this grand treatment? A packed restaurant full of people celebrating an Argo victory - and there’s a reserved table for 30 people for the band? This is great, but why? IMG 0327

    (Well, I always thought it was part of an unspoken arrangement: we’ll buy you a beer so long as you don’t ever barge in here and play “Argos Rule the CFL” ever again. go crash the Lone Star and Boston Pizza and East Side Mario’s all you want though.)

    Doug Flutie came and sat at the band table once. Doug Flutie! The greatest quarterback in CFL history! And he came and sat at OUR table! I can’t imagine that happening in the NFL. Players mingling with ordinary people. (Naturally we asked him if his Flutie Brothers Band needed another 40 members, and he pointed out “I already have horns in the band.” Well OK then.)

    Even after it was no longer the official spot - for one awkward year, the official post game restaurant was Frank D’Angelo’s “Forget About It” Supper Club - fans and players continued to celebrate or commiserate after the games at Badali’s.

    Badali’s was also the gathering spot for several CFL Pep Band Summits - wonderful Grey Cup get-togethers with Argonotes and our great friends, the Saskatchewan Roughrider Pep band. This is the 2012 Summit, possibly history’s largest gathering of CFL Musicians. And there’s Bob Mossing, Member of the Order of Canada, Founder of the Roughrider Pep Band -

    CFL Band Summit 2012

    (Note, former BC Lions band leader Dal Richards is also a member of the Order of Canada. I presume they eventually give this to all CFL band leaders. I will keep an eye on my email.)

    Hanging out with the Rider band provided some of my greatest Argonotes memories - and we kicked off the 2007 “Not The Grey Cup Parade” from the Badali’s parking lot!

    I celebrated both my 40th and 50th birthday parties at Badali’s, surrounded by all my band friends and family. I was looking forward to celebrating the next big birthday there too … But the Argos moved to BMO Field, the band got ignored to death, and I hadn’t been back to Front and Simcoe until yesterday.

    Thank you to Mike, who’s moved on, and all the wonderful staff at Badali’s over the years who treated us so well. We miss you.

    a Twitter CFL experiment

    So this is kind of interesting, isn’t it?

    twitter.com/CFLPredic…

    Wow, isn’t that wild. A twitter account called @CFLPredictor that posted exactly one tweet, on June 13, before the season started, correctly calling the outcome of the 106th Grey Cup, played in November! What are the chances of that?

    Well … I gotta come clean; as it happens, I have a pretty good idea what the chances of that are, because I …

    • created the CFLPredictor account on June 10, as a private account not visible to anybody.
    • <li>wrote a script (using a nifty <a href="https://github.com/sferik/t">command line twitter tool</a>) that posted hundreds of variations of the above tweet - essentially, every possible combination of <em>Team A</em> over <em>Team B</em>  
      
      • in a close one
      • in overtime
      • by a touchdown
      • by more than a touchdown
      • in a blowout

      Essentially it did this ..

      #!/bin/sh
      for t1 in BC Edmonton Calgary Saskatchewan Winnipeg Toronto Hamilton Ottawa Montreal; do
          for t2 in BC Edmonton Calgary Saskatchewan Winnipeg Toronto Hamilton Ottawa Montreal; do
      
              if [[ $t1 != $t2 ]]; then
                      tweet "My Grey Cup 2018 Prediction: $t1 over $t2 in overtime."
                      tweet "My Grey Cup 2018 Prediction: $t1 over $t2 in a close one."
                      tweet "My Grey Cup 2018 Prediction: $t1 over $t2 by a touchdown"
                      tweet "My Grey Cup 2018 Prediction: $t1 over $t2 by more than a touchdown."
                      tweet "My Grey Cup 2018 Prediction: $t1 over $t2 in a blowout."
              fi
      
          done
      done
      
      

      To be safe, my script had to include various extremely unlikely options like “Toronto over Hamilton”, because with the CFL’s crossover playoff format, any team can potentially beat any other team.

      (It didn’t post “Toronto over Toronto”. I have my integrity here.)

    • admired the 9 * 8 * 5 = 360 different tweets, none of which were visible to anybody other than me.
    • waited until November 25, Grey Cup day
    • PANICKED because in looking over my script, it had encountered an error months earlier and had neglected to tweet two possible Ottawa-over-Calgary outcomes.
    • on November 25th, watched the game carefully, hoping desperately for anything BUT "Ottawa over Calgary in overtime" and "Ottawa over Calgary in a blowout".
    • watched with relief as when Calgary beat Ottawa 27-16
    • deleted all but one of the tweets
    • made the account public so anybody could see it
    • retweeted the now-visible one remaining tweet [twitter.com/shayman/s...](https://twitter.com/shayman/status/1067155775980736527)
    • sat back and waited for the flood of people to comment WOW, that CFLPredictor account must be either a football genius or some sort of amazing artificial intelligence to have correctly called the outcome of the Grey Cup months before it happened.

    I’m not sure what my plan was going to be if anybody else actually picked up on this but naturally I was hoping it’d get mentioned in the media somewhere.

    To my slight disappointment but ultimate relief, everybody on the Internet must be smarter than me because nobody fell for this fake news ruse.

    So anyway, next time you see an amazing Internet prediction, consider the possible source.

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